WEBCOMICS TACTICS

algeya's picture

Ok lets forget about Pvp , Penny A. for a minute ok Im going to talk about the late 05 webcomics tactics that were used to increase the readership from newcomers in the webcomic world.(thats Im not going to count starslip crisis that were made by webcoics veteran just newguys. )


Digital unrest

http://www.digitalunrestcomic.com/index.php
.- it started last year as a smackjeeves comic becomig popular in a short time, but when the host was down it moved to his own site it had that time 150-300 readers.

On 2006-04-12 it was featured on jostiq site http://www.joystiq.com/ the readership rised to 2500-3000.

July 17 06 founder member of Gamers Pair of Dice webcomic group , now he has 6000 readers when he updates. (not bad for someone that never did publicity on other sites or leeching other people forums)


Now lets see Press start to play , http://www.pressstarttoplay.net/ , when D. started the comic it was promoted by Vgcats (when he had less than 7 strips) for a very long time (yes promotion via the mouth of a author of a famous webcmoic works). founder member gamers pairs of dice.

readers.-10, 000 on updates

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 Multiplex.-
http://www.multiplexcomic.com/index.php

his modus operandi was making a lot of guest strips for pvp, writing for comixpedia doing art for webcartoonist web awards . Paying adds at online comics and a lot of webcomics lists (Yes he participates a lot in this forums) . early days when . IÂ now its about over 2500 readers.

 Cute Ninja girls
(Sean its a active member here) Ok this comic was posted in every comic forum I can remember (pvp, cad, vg cats, press start to play and a dozen more). he is active in every webcomics site, , writing a lot of articles. ANNOUNCED in every webcomic list with the really big adds for a long time.

but unlike multiplex there wasnt guest strips or any kind of guest art for contest or promo cng (or I least i never saw any of it Only Sean and his fans knows best)
Now on hiatus started with a readership about 300-500 when it finished it possibly had more than 1500 readers. now on hiatus

Thats all for today Im tired maybe I'll add a couple more later. Sorry for my grammar Im lazy to check it and my computer only correct spanish words (yes Im mexican so what !) bye

PET PRO

http://www.petprofessional.net/links.php , Petpro was promoted since the start by Scott Kurtz in his webcomic several times, ergo it gave him instant big readership (being pimp by others help)

Even keep the audience when one of the artist Matt left the comic, and it was on hiatus (everyone was curious who will be next artist)

average estimate readership.- 10, 000 by day

Dueling Analogs

 Ok This webcomic has made all to promote the comic and thier work pay off , paying a lot of adds in webcomics site, founder member gamers pair of dice, making a pvp guest comic and nominated twice in the Wcca.

readers 8000-10000 on peak days.

 

Notes.- traffic rankings were taken from their sites, there is a lot more comics that were hits this year but these are the one that I've following.

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http://pilli.smackjeeves.com/


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RemusShepherd's picture

Am I getting the summary correct?

Let me see if I can summarize your post in clearer language.

Two gamer comics that got attention through game sites. One has over 6,000 readers, the other over 10,000.

Two comics that were pitched early on by more famous comic sites, both have over 10,000 readers.

One comic that schmoozed famous comic sites, did fanart for them, writes for sites about comics, and bought advertisements -- basically everything you *can* do to actively promote your site -- has about 1,000 readers.

Well, that tears it. Pardon me, I'm going to go start up a gamer comic and email offers of sexual favors to a few famous people. ;)

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DAJB's picture

Yep - it may not have been

Yep - it may not have been the intention but that's pretty much how I read it too!Â

To Hell with all the effort required to make a webcomic good; you'd be better off putting your energy into schmoozing those who are already well-known!

Still ... it's not that different to the facts of life in any other medium is it?  How else do cardboard cut-outs like Jude Law, Jeremy Irons or Halle Berry get acting roles?

Broken Voice Comics
Because comics are not just for kids

Broken Voice Comics Because comics are not just for kids
algeya's picture

regardless of the quality

regardless of the quality of the webcomic the blog entry is about how they got their aundiences or how they started to promote their comics.

for example Petpro its a great webcomic if was a crappy, it only could get thousands of readers the first day but they will never return to the next day.

http://pilli.smackjeeves.com/comics/

 

 

DAJB's picture

Sorry, Algeya but that's

Sorry, Algeya but that's patently not true. Look at the top 20 - 30 comics in any of the webcomic top-lists. There are any number of poorly written and/or poorly drawn comics garnering very respectable readership numbers.

Sadly, there is just too much content out there and - whilst this is a good thing for creativity and variety - it does mean that success (as measured by readership) is often a matter of lucking out on a piece of timely exposure rather than quality.

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Gordon McAlpin's picture

Several corrections

Several corrections:

I've done three guest strips for PvP. (Scott asked me to a guest strip, and since I love PvP, I did. End of story. No "schmoozing," no "fan art.") The first two (from April) tripled my readership from the 500 or so a day I was getting beforehand. The third one (late July) had no noticeable effect on my traffic.

The Webcartoonists' Choice Awards thing had no significant effect on my traffic.

I've never written for Comixpedia. I've been interviewed by them once.

I've never been interviewed by a newspaper.

I've never used anything called Extreme Tracker, nor have I ever had publicly viewable stats on my site, though I do mention my current readership on the Advertising page: I get about 2500 readers per day these days. (Comixpedia's Toplist's publicly viewable stats track things a little lower than my own stats for some reason, but it's in the same ballpark.)

The extra thousand since April came from ads, joining Boxcar Comics, and hopefully just your average, ordinary word of mouth.

Multiplex is a weekly webcomic revolving around the staff of the Multiplex 10 Cinemas.
Multiplex is a twice weekly humor comic about the staff of the Multiplex 10 Cinemas and the movies that play there.
algeya's picture

thanks for the info.I will

thanks for the info, sorry for the mistakes I apologize I confused one of your online interviews (the one that showed us the multiplex work process)

I will add them to the database, and edit later

by the way your comic rocks

http://pilli.smackjeeves.com/comics/

 

 

Sean C's picture

I gotta clear that up, Remus

I know you were refering to me as the "schmoozer". Honestly, the only comics I've done guest strips for were my fellow Bomb Shelter Comics members or an Interact member or two; I haven't done any fanart. When we were still going, Dan did indeed get ads at TWCL, Online Comics.net, and here, but we didn't go on a spending spree, not by any means. Pretty much everyone has gotten an ad at any number of those sites. As for me, the only real promoting I did was through some other comic's forums where I had already established a presence, i.e. been around a while. I wrote articles and tutorials for Interact (when it still existed) because I was a member, and I've written a couple of articles here; but totaling that up, there really weren't that many. I was by no means a whore. It's been implied, and really, I'm flattered, but we wound up getting most of our new readers by word of mouth. I just don't things blown out of proportion; many others have done much much more than we did.

(I don't remember ever plugging on the PSTP forums, though. I don't think I've ever even visited those forums.)

And it was roughly 2000 visitors a week when we ended.

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RemusShepherd's picture

Not you, and nothing wrong.

 No, I was referring to Multiplex, and Gordon, as the 'schmoozer', based on the description in the original post. (which has since been changed.)

 In my half-serious summary, I skipped over Cute Ninja Girls, as I didn't want to draw any conclusions from a comic on hiatus.

And there's nothing wrong with schmoozing or being a whore to get success if that's what you want. I'm just incredibly frustrated because I can't do it. I'm too much of an asshole to get on anybody's good side. :) As, I think, this thread has proven once again. :)

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oolong's picture

so basically the key to

so basically the key to getting webcomic traffic is to hope really hard that someone famous links to you? man, that's insightful.Â


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Sean C's picture

Ah, Ya Didn't Offend

I haven't seen anything that would make me think you're an asshole, Remus. You're still cool in my book.

Don't hesitate to procrastinate. See my stuff at http://www.cuteninjagirls.com

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scottstory's picture

As someone who has done very

As someone who has done very little marketing/advertising for my webcomic, I was not aware that there were 'black hat' forms of getting traffic.Â

Why would guesting on a popular strip, or getting a link from a popular strip, be bad? That automatically paints both the popular webcartoonist and the webcartoonist that he/she is promoting somehow disreputable or underhanded, and I don't see why that would be so.

Is it how I would do things? Not really. Yet, if my strip got big, I would be glad to help out other cartoonists.Â

Fan art? Yeah, I'll admit that I do no fan art, because I don't own those other characters. I'd rather draw my own. But nothing is intrinsically wrong with fan art, and I know a well known artist who got a star gig at Image doing fan art.Â

I guess the difference is between honest networking and being a sleazy suck up. I'm all for networking effeciently, but sucking up is not good.

 

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http://www.graphicsmash.com/comics/johnnysaturn.php
macnut's picture

But how to tell the difference....

...between honest networking and sleazy sucking-up? Would the webcomic author even know when he/she had crossed that line? Or would the only sign of it be no increase in readership?

And how does the author know the person calling them a "sleazy suck-up" isn't just jealous of their success or results?

Eh, I dunno-all I do know is we put up our comics hoping to get some kind of validation and feedback for them-otherwise why put them on the Intarweb in the first place? Hopefully at least some people will like it...

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